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waider ([personal profile] waider) wrote2005-05-29 08:50 pm
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the inevitable star wars post II: the whining

  • Right, so as I said, I agree that Anakin’s turning was too quick. Actually, it was more than that. He basically does for Mace Windu, and then has a brief period of "Hply Sjot What Have I Done?" before being totally evil. And that’s it. There’s not even a hint, even though we-the-audience know about it, of this being motivated by his desire to keep the missus alive. Yes, sure, there’s dialogue, but this is one of those occasions where Hayden’s acting is just utterly useless.
  • Palpatine’s post-zapping makeup. Crap. Rubbish. He looked like someone had wrapped his head in a sock filled with porridge, not like someone who’d just been forcibly aged by a couple of decades, or whatever effect it was supposed to be. I dunno, maybe porridge is what Lucas intended.
  • The Kenobi/Skywalker fight was the business, but the ending was a complete letdown. Here are these two guys banging away at each other with lightsabers and The Force™, and the next thing one jumps up and the other saws off three of his limbs. Er. WTF? Would’ve been far better if they’d done something like using that moment where he overbalances on the flying platform (just before the climax) to have Kenobi try and save him, to, you know, hammer home the point that Kenobi really doesn’t want to kill him, and then have him fall in the lava. Or on it. Or, I dunno, close enough to it to get baked until crispy.
  • I’m sure there’s some handwaving explanation for it, but I figured the rest of the Jedi should’ve felt their number being killed off, instead of it just being Yoda who’s staggering around like a drunk. They’re all supposed to be sensitive to The Force™, right?
  • In the opening action (which was mostly brilliant) Grevious takes out the windows of the spacecraft and everyone starts getting sucked into the vacuum. Then suddenly they’re not getting sucked into the vacuum any more, and nothing obvious has happened to cause this change. That annoyed me, and I’m not usually bothered by continuity skips.
  • You’d imagine Windu would have communicated with the council, or at least left them a note, before going off to take the Chancellor. Since, you know, they’re all so big on democracy and multilateral decisions and all.
  • They messed up Rudi’s line. It’s "you’re either with me or against me", dammit, not "you’re either with me... or my enemy". That annoyed me, because the latter is clunky, not because I was hoping for the zinger.
I think that’s enough of that. I might have more complaints as I mull it over, but as Rands has pointed out, the fact that I’m mulling it over at all speaks volumes for the quality of this movie over the two that preceded it, which I’d forgotten huge details of (Anakin lost an arm? when?) by the time this one came around.
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[personal profile] kodi 2005-05-30 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Porridge is actually a pretty good explanation. Between the awful makeup and the "I'm a pathetic old man, save me!" I honestly hoped that I was watching a doctored print.

The end of the Obi-Wan / Darth Annie fight scene bugs me more and more. It's not just that it made the entire scene before it totally pointless. The fatal flaw that Annie succumbs to is something that's been around for almost three whole movies at that point. We've spent 7 hours saying, "Well, ok, it seems to me that if Jedi do a somersault everytime they meet a Sith lord, there's going to be a lot of Jedi amputees floating around in hoverchairs, but they seem to think it's a good idea, so I'll Suspend Disbelief." And then with 30 minutes to go, it's "Hah! Fooled you! The somersault this IS totally stupid!"

[identity profile] king-mob.livejournal.com 2005-05-30 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Grevious takes out the windows of the spacecraft and everyone starts getting sucked into the vacuum. Then suddenly they’re not getting sucked into the vacuum any more, and nothing obvious has happened to cause this change.

Untrue. You see blast-shield-thingies closing over where the windows used to be.
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[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2005-05-30 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
My bad; I completely missed this, and I was looking for it.
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[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2005-05-30 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
Furthermore, the main reason I was looking for it was that Grevious' exit impressed me. Sort of, "Neat. Robot doesn't stand and fight, Robot says, Ha, puny humans need OXYGEN and smashes the nearest window. Now what will puny humans do?"

[identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
Not necessarily. George is infamous for releasing multiple cuts of the same movie. It's entirely possible that Waider's international release lacks the blast shields in the domestic release, for whatever reason.
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[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe he doesn't want us furrin types to know about the blast shield technology!

Ahem. Was it a subtle effect, or was there a big-ass jump cut LOOK THE SHIELDS ARE CLOSING? I was sitting pretty close to the screen due to the theatre being kinda full, and I may have missed something that wasn't completely obvious and centre-screen.

[identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It was pretty obvious. People yelling "close the blast shields", the button getting pressed, and the shields closing.
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[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, maybe it was the drugs or the clamps holding my eyes open, but I'm pretty sure I didn't see that.