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waider ([personal profile] waider) wrote2007-12-02 08:31 am
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this should be entertaining

A lawyer "representing the US Government" in a case in the UK claims that America has the right to kidnap those wanted by US law. I'm sure this will turn out to be an over-reaching interpretation by a lawyer with no official sanction to do so, but it's certainly an... interesting point of view.

[identity profile] dr-strych9.livejournal.com 2007-12-03 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"I still think the blatant (rather than tacit, implicit, or whatever other diplomatic word you choose) statement of jurisdiction is going to cause a bit of a flap."

A "bit of a flap" is about all one could ever expect out of the goddamn British in these matters. The USA is openly kidnapping their citizens from their own sovereign territory, which is a crime under UK law last I checked. You'd think it would warrant more than a sour look and a shrug.
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[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2007-12-03 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't say I've even seen that much. There've been one or two bitty comments here and there, but most people seem to be disregarding this. Searching for Alun Jones QC on the BBC News website, for example, turns up nothing on this topic, although I did learn that Mr. Jones is in fact a top extradition lawyer in the UK, and that he defended Abu Hamza against extradition to the US. Google news list of articles discussing my original comment, although I don't know if that's a permalink.

waider's not british

(Anonymous) 2007-12-06 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Aren't you at least going to point out to the geography-challenged poster that you are not, in fact, British or in the UK?
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Re: waider's not british

[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2007-12-06 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, M. Strychnine is well aware of these things and is not, in fact, referring to me as being either British, or from the UK.

And, you know, who's a name-challeneged person to point fingers anyway?

Re: waider's not british

(Anonymous) 2007-12-06 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
His use of "you people" suggests otherwise.
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Re: waider's not british

[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2007-12-06 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
You really should identify yourself if you're going to persist with this.

I know s9. He knows Ireland and the UK are not the same place. In light of this fact, you may read his "you people?" as either indicitave that all non-Americans thought Americans were civilized, or that he's directing it at the UK (since in the context of the colloquialisms, "they people" or "them people" doesn't really work)