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[identity profile] odaiwai.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Only a few years ago, we would have read that in The Onion and thought it was a bit too blatant for proper satire.

[identity profile] boutell.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
The administration is working hard to paint this as the work of one "extremist cleric," but it seems clear enough to me: the Shiites, the ones they figured would support the occupation, do not support the occupation. Perhaps only the most "extreme" have openly expressed this with rocket launchers thus far. But you'd obviously be mistaken if you took the number of direct actors in the Oklahoma City bombing to be equal to the total number of radical reactionaries in the United States.

This means that America's current number of supporters in Iraq hovers somewhere between "the number of Iraqis we are currently paying a worthwhile salary" and zero.

Those of us marching in the street prior to the start of the war can say to Bush, "I told you so," but we can't say "we elected a congress with the balls to vote down your idiotic unilateral invasion and spare the lives of Iraqis and Americans both."

[identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, we haven't lost the Kurds yet. They're still pretty happy with us. Not that this will save our asses.
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[identity profile] waider.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're underestimating the awesome power of a fully operational Dub-Ya.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure we will abandon the Kurds in due time, like we did in `91.

[identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Bush's decision to abandon the Kurds in 1991 is touted as one of the big problems that we had to go back and fix. I doubt that Bush will be hanging the Kurds out to dry this time. If anything, Bush's father's mistake will predispose Dubya to stick with the Kurds far longer than is adivsable.

Kerry, on the other hand, doesn't have anyone's Kurd-betraying albatross hanging around his neck. If Kerry wins the white house, it's entirely likely that the Kurds will be up shit creek.
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2004-04-06 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe i'm just being cynical, but i think that the only albatross hanging around Dubya's neck was, "Those ragheads tried to kill my daddy!" The US Government will never give the Kurds any real support because it'll piss the Turks off.

[identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd actually like to read more about the Bush Sr. assassination attempt. How far did they get? Did the NSA just intercept a message where Saddam said "boy I wish someone would kill that guy" or did a secret service guy have to leap in slow-motion while shouting "noooooooooo" to intercept the fatal bullet?
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[identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm nearly certain that it never got as far as the latter scenario. But i am as curious about it as you are.

[identity profile] tongodeon.livejournal.com 2004-04-07 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Bingo. I found a very good article not only about the foiled car bomb attempt to kill Bush Sr. during his visit to Kuwait, but the way that the bomb was linked to Iraqi intelligence services.